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Does Science support Evolution or Creation?


Decide for yourself, just be informed.
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Question: How did life begin?

Evolution says, "Billions of years ago, life began from nonliving things by natural process."

Creation says, "Life cannot come from nonlife by natural process. In nature, life only comes from life. Life's origin was supernatural."

Scientific Fact: The Law of Biogenesis states life only comes from life. The Cell Theory states living cells only come from living cells. The Law of Science contradicts Evolution and supports Creation.
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Question: How did the universe originate?

Evolution says, "Billions of years ago, the universe (matter and energy) originated from nothing by natural process."

Creation says, "Matter and energy cannot originate from nothing by natural processes, it's origin was supernatural."

Scientific Fact: The First Law of Thermodynamics states matter and energy is neither created nor destroyed. This Law of Science contradicts Evolution and supports Creation.
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Question: How did the universeget to be how it is today?

Evolution says, "The Big Bang. All matter and energy was originally in a tiny clump and it expanded. The universe began as chaos and over time became orderly."

Creation says, "The universe was created orderly. Our orderly solar system is the result of design, not chance and chaos over time."

Scientific Fact: The Second Law of Thermodynamics states systems go from order to chaos (which Creation teaches) and not from chaos to order (which Evolution teaches). This Law of Science contradicts Evolution and supports Creation.
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Question: Do people have bacteria as ancestors?

Evolution says, "Yes, the first life was bacteria and after many mutations over billions of years the result was people."

Creation says, "Absolutely not. Bacteria can only make bacteria and people can only come from people."

Scientific Fact: Creation is supported by genetics and biochemistry. A simple knowledge of DNA, and what it does, shows that if bacteria is mutated, all you will get is mutated bacteria or dead bacteria.
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Question: But offspring can be different from their parents, isn't that evidence for Evolution?

Evolution says, "Yes, an accumulation of these small changes over billions of years accounts for Evolution."

Creation says, "Yes, offspring change, but within limits. Traits may change, but dogs can only make dogs."
 
Scientific Fact: Artifical breeding has shown there are limits to changes in animals. You can breed dogs to get faster dogs, but they are still, and always will be dogs.
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Question: If Evolution is true, where is the fossil evidence?

Evolutionist Dr. Mark Ridley says, "No real evolutionist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of the theory of evolution." - New Scientist, 6-25-81, p 831

Creation says, "The fossil record does not show evidence of "missing links" because they never existed."
 
Scientific Fact: Evolutionists admit the fossil record does not support Evolution. If bacteria to blue whale evolution is true, there should be thousands of fossils of the animals that were missing links, yet they do not exist.
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Question: If Evolution is true, where is the living evidence?

Evolution says, "Since Evolution takes such a long time to see real changes, we do not expect to see living evidence."

Creation says, "There is no living evidence of bacteria to blue whale evolution because it never happened."
 
Scientific Fact: If the theory of Evolution is true, there had to have been billions of missing links. Where are they? Why aren't they alive today? emoticon


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And now, let's examine the scientific evidence for evolution.




















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So, have you heard of any new fraud - I mean - "evidence" for macroevolution lately?

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Nope, they just keep digging up the old ones.

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your faulty premise.


Evolution says nothing about how life got started here. You're opening premise is a strawman.

For those who are still trying to weasle their theology into the science class, I have a few questions that no Creationist has dared to answer so far:

What type of Creationism should we teach? All of them? Shall we teach Young Earth Creationism, Old Earth Creationism, Gap Creationism, Day-Age Creationism, Progressive Creationism, Intelligent Design Creationism, Evolutionary Creationism, and Theistic Creationism?

I'll assume that you want the science teacher to also include lessons on the Slain Monster story from Sumeria-Babylonia, the Primordial Parents story from the Cook Islanders and the Egyptians, the Cosmic Egg story from Japan, Samoa, Persia, and China, the Spoken Edict story from the Mayans, and the Sea Creation stories from the Burmese, Choctaw Indians, and the Icelanders.

After all, by using the phrase "equal time", you really mean "equal time", right? You weren't being dishonest, were you?

When do you suppose the science teacher will have time to actually teach some science in science class?

Scientific theories aren't accepted in the scientific community via whining or political lobbying. By not being able or willing to grasp this, you demonstrate why you have no business whatsoever in discussing what is taught in a science class in the first place, so show some dignity, if not honesty, and come back when you at least get the basics.

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Re: your faulty premise.



Stormdog wrote:

Evolution says nothing about how life got started here. You're opening premise is a strawman.




I keep hearing that spoken with such authority.
But other advocates of evolution would disagree with you.
(See here)

So what "type" of evolution should we teach?

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that's easy.



Staybrite wrote:


Stormdog wrote:

Evolution says nothing about how life got started here. You're opening premise is a strawman.




I keep hearing that spoken with such authority.
But other advocates of evolution would disagree with you.
(See here)

So what "type" of evolution should we teach?



Descent with modification via natural selection. NOT Lewtonian.

So... what kind of math do you like?

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Staybrite wrote:

So what "type" of evolution should we teach?



Descent with modification via natural selection. NOT Lewtonian.




Based on what criteria do you exclude Lewtonian evolution?



So... what kind of math do you like?


I like all kinds of math as long as they yeild the correct results.

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scientific criteria.


if the hypothesis cannot be supported by the evidence, then it must be replaced by a hypothesis that is. Generally speaking, if it can survive tough scientific scrutiny and still provide strong prediction and explanatory powers, it will live another day. Lewtonian Evolution didn't make the grade so, regardless of how popular or emotionally attached anyone was to this hypothesis, it had to be thrown out. That's the beauty of science - it's self-correcting.

The question "does science support evolution or creationism" is a strange one to ask. Creationism is not a scientific postulation. There's nothing to measure or test. Faith is of no use whatsoever in a science lab. It's like asking "what can we measure with a weight scale - rocks or the colour red?".

So how do you know you have the "right" answer?

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